From a coach March 21, 2005
Once again I would like to congratulate all the kids who have worked very hard fin the league this year.  I direct this congratulations to our young officials and to our many players who continue to be involved in SMBA. I believe this is my ninth year of involvement with the league and a couple of reminders need to be stated from a parent's, coach's, and fan's viewpoint. I have seen so many good things happen with this league from when it first began so many years ago. First, it is very difficult to referee basketball; our kids are bigger, faster, and stronger than ever.  Also, for the most part, players are receiving coaching expertise at a very high level that allows them to continue to develop at an exceptional rate. Our referees are crucial to the league's survival.  SMBA is doing a good job of training them. If we continue to argue and breate the kids on a weekly basis and keep losing them, then we wll not have a league.  Everybody seems to be an excellent referee from the stands or the sideline, but it is a very difficult job. I know because I still make a point of refereeing games each year, and I feel badly for the kids who do a good job because they feel intimidated by the adults who clearly get caught up in the game. Some people just do not understand the rules of the game. Maybe coaches should have to attend a rules clinic at the start of the season because some of the basic rules/principles are not being taught. Banging with your forearm, two handed pushing, or reaching across a person to impede one's progress is simply not allowed. You cannot ignore players' actions if they hit someone and hurt them because they don't know any better or you have not shown them the right way. A ref cannot see everything; coaches need to be responsible for their players' actions. Just try and ref a game and you will see how hard it really is!

The game is for the kids and it is okay for them to want to win. It is imperative for coaches to expect his/her players to give their best at practice and at games. It is crucial to teach them how to deal with failure and to learn from their mistakes.   Basketball is about developing the person and there are tons of lessons that can be learned. It is most critical for coaches to share their passion and enthusiasm for  the game with the kids.  We want kids to be excited about playing. All parties involved must remember that playing basketball must be fun, and it is okay to have expectations. 

Fair play must be modelled! Referees need to know that they will be supported. Kids need to have fun.
What is so difficult about this?  Coaches, please remember this next season when you start to get a little wound up and you want to go at the ref: do you want your son or daughter to have to put up with the nonsense and abuse from an adult when they go to a job? Refereeing is a good job for kids so respect their commitment. Think about it, parents and fans, the next time you want to yell at a referee. How do you think your son or daughter would feel? Would you want your son or daughter refereeing SMBA?

From one basketball fan, parent and coach

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Reply to a coach March 15, 2005

Regarding the March 9 comments:
I was at this game and felt that both teams played a very intense, aggressive type of game from the opening tip off. These were two very determined basketball teams who both wanted to win this game. In the first half, this coach’s team was in the face of many of the opposition players, and many times the players ended up on the floor. This was not dirty play, just good tough basketball and the opposition coach did not whine and complain to the refs about it.
The comment about a player being “bit on the face” is ridiculous! I very clearly saw the incident referred to. The two players were pursuing the ball and one player’s head came up hard against the mouth of the other player. The player whose mouth hit the head of the other player actually said, “oh my God, I think I might have bit you!” There was absolutely no intent on the part of this player to “bite” anyone, and for a coach to suggest this is misleading and absolutely irresponsible!
I was very impressed with the skill and intensity of this coach’s team. They are a great bunch of players and I commend them for playing a strong game of basketball. You were complaining the entire second half, virtually at every stoppage in play. You had the supervisor sitting beside the scoring table most of the second half. If 2 referees AND the supervisor did not see anything “rough” or “dangerous” in this game (and they did not), perphaps you need to think about the way you handled yourself. Basketball can be a very physically intense sport, particularly in the playoffs. As I said, this coach’s team played very physical themselves in the first half (and in a previous league game). But again, I guess when they play physical their coach sees it as good basketball. But when the opposition plays with some intensity, they see it as “dirty” .
Think about the message you are sending to your kids when every time things aren’t going your way you are looking for someone to blame. Go ahead and blame someone if you must, but please leave the referees and other good coaches out of it. In the four years I have had a child playing in SMBA I have had nothing but respect for the capabilities of the referees and supervisors. They approach the game with a good attitude, a solid basic knowledge of the rules and the judgement to know when to let teams play the game.

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Reply from a Coach, March 15, 2005

The last couple of weekends our officiating has been outstanding.This doesn’t mean I agreed with every call, but the officials did a terrific job overall. I felt with all the bad press your officals have been getting, maybe they could use a little appreciation as well.
I have been involved with the SMBA, in one form or another(parent/fan/assistant coach/coach/community coordinator)for the better part of six years and I wanted to let you know that I feel the officiating in league games has improved vastly over the last couple of years. The SMBA officials have been taking it on the chin recently, and unfairly I believe, based on bad calls and rough games.
With regard to bad calls, as a community coordinator, we have periodic coaches meetings, and all accounts from my coaches have been positive over the entire past season. As a coach, I haven’t always agreed with every call a ref has made in the games my kids played, but I have always felt they were fair. As a parent, I have also talked to several parents that attend all or many of our games and they provide me with ample feedback. The parents are, for the most part, complimentary towards the SMBA officails and the work they do every week.
With regard to rough games, as a coach I think it is the officials job to call the games. I’ve already stated that I think they do a very good job at this. I think it is the coaches job to deal with rough play on the court. If you coach a team that is playing a little too rough, don’t wait for the official to bench your players, call a time out and talk to them. If you coach a team that is being roughed up, stop the game and talk to the gym supervisor. Ultimately you, COACH, are responsible for your players safety. I coach a team of girls that by all accounts are undersized. In the past we have had situations where we felt a game was getting a little too rough. I have stopped games and talked to the Gym Supervisor and the Offiials. They agreed that the game was getting out of control and spoke with the other coach. The game continued and all was well. ll.

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Reply from a Referee, March 15, 2005
I have been reffing for four years now and this was my first year supervising. I was actually quite worried starting off this year because of the troubles we have been having these past couple of years, but overall I would have to say the majority of the coaches handle themselves very well in a polite and respectful manner. And for that, I thank you all! I know that a lot of refs have blamed the coaches for all of the problems this year for discrepencies, and I am fully aware that there are those random few refs who become very defensive very quickly, as are those coaches too, which make the whole group look bad. But I would also like to address the parents attitudes towards the refs. I have found that the "basketball" parents are slowly evolving into "hockey" parents, of which are consistently yelling at us to "open our eyes" and "call it both ways." It becomes very frustrating when you already have the players and coaches making comments, and then to add on the parents swearing at you from the bleachers. I am not one to lose my temper or just throw out a technical; but this year I was very tempted a couple of times to give a team a bench technical due to parents comments and actions, which in my opinion would be very unfair to the team, but it is the coach's duty to make sure that their parents along with players are under control. I believe everyone should stop pointing fingers at each other and realize that as referees, we are doing the best job as possible and it becomes very frustrating when coaches and players are trying to tell you how to do your job; in my past four years I have never seen a ref or supervisor go up to a coach and tell him how to coach, so please just allow us to make our calls. There really is no point in yelling, "what, what kind of call is that?", because we are not going to change it, whether you agree or not. If you are unhappy with the call, be patient and wait until the next whistle and ask us to clarify what we saw. Coaches and parents also need to be aware that there are two refs and ten players on the court, we cannot see every angle and see every foul or violation. It simply just cannot all be called. I am aware of both sides frustrations, but we need to make sure the referees want to come and ref for you guys instead of just thinking about the money and pushing aside the quality of reffing they put into it. Just like playing the game, reffing and coaching should also be fun!

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Reply from a Referee, March 13, 2005
In regards to using SABO officials:
I am an SMBA official, I was also a SABO official for a few years. The only reason why I am not currently a SABO official is because I am also a full time student and could not commit to a regular schedule of games with the association. I don’t know why coaches feel that SABO officials are necessary. As an SMBA official to become a SABO official, I had to attend an hour and 1/2 information session, complete a multiple choice test on rules of the game and pay $35 to become part of the association. There was no practical and during the course of the season I was evaluated once by a senior official. This was minimal compared to my training with the SMBA. We have clinics that are run by SABO officials that have practical components. We are also evaluted during every game we ref and constantly get feedback how to improve. I have watched many games over the years, been a coach, and have also played in various leagues, and would gladly take SMBA referees anyday. Some of the SABO officials have never actually played competitive basketball, all of the SMBA officials are familiar with the game as a player. The only difference between SABO officials and SMBA refs, in my opinion is that the typical SABO official is an older male whereas our refs are generally teenagers. It seems to me that if our officials were older males they would recieve more respect from some coaches, which is too bad. If this is the case it is a problem with the coaches - not the refs.
Coaches need to remember that no matter who refs the game it will not be perfect. Things will be missed and bad calls are made. We are all human and I feel that’s part of what makes basketball interesting. Coaches need to remember that games should be won despite the reffing. I suggest that anyone who does not like the reffing can find another league to play in.

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Reply from a Referee, March 11, 2005
I get tired of defending my calls. We are, of course, going to miss calls and get calls wrong, because nobodies perfect. The games I have watch all have been called very tight, and there are still coaches complaining about the game being to rough. We can call every contact there is and that still does not mean the game will not get out of control. It gets out of control, when coaches lose their temper and let there emotions get the better of them. Bad sportsmanship is contagious, when players see the coaches and fans disrespecting the officials, the will be more likely to emulate their behavior. I have had more problems with coaches in the last two weeks, then the rest of the year combined. Some people need to keep things in perspective, I know the game is important to them (and we should treat is as such) but some people just need to relax and realize winning is not everything.
Regardless if the call was right or wrong (because we all make mistakes), it is not disputable. If players, coaches and fans just accepted the call and moved on I think we would have a lot less problems then we do now. The large majority of refs work very hard to do a good job, and should not haven't to deal with the coaches, players and fans disrespecting them.

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Reply from a Referee, March 10, 2005
I encourage coaches to approach the official, but this must be done at an appropriate time where there is a break in the play (and this may mean waiting a few minutes). In playoffs I would suggest approaching the sup first if possible as that is what we are there for (and there is one in each gym). We (being sup or ref) will clarify a call, but there is no point in arguing a call as we can’t take it back after the fact. We take your comments seriously, and will take them in to consideration for the remainder of the game. As well, many coaches may not be as respectful in approaching the ref as you are, and I admit this has made some officials become overly defensive in their calls.
My problem is with coaches and players who yell and make comments from the bench, hand gestures (such as travelling is common), or who yell out in the middle of a play. These are all inappropriate. I ended up giving out 3 techinicals this past weekend for questioning my call in an inappropriate manner. I even had one player get mad at me for not calling a foul before he realized it was his own teamate that took him out. I did not appreciate the rude comment I received.
I’m sorry if it sounded confrontational but the abuse in the past 9 years I have reffed and supervised has steadily increased. I remember as a young player looking up to the officials and never thinking of questioning a call or testing an official to see how much I could get away with. When coaches don’t show respect to refs and the calls they make, it transfers to kids and their parents. This has had a snowball effect and made the game much more difficult to ref. I used to enjoy reffing and showing kids the fundementals of the game, now I dread the abuse I could potentially face.
In the end, it’s not the officiating the players are going to remember. It will be playing the game they love with their friends and all the people they meet. Sure I’ve lost a few tough ones in my life, but it’s a game and that’s the way it goes. Instead I remember what a great time I had, and what I learned from the coach and officials that made me a better player.

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Executive Adminstrator Response, March 10, 2005

Referees have been told to talk to the coaches at time outs and stoppages of play if the coach is polite and not always attacking the referees.
If referees do not follow this procedure then I would like to know the name of the referee because if nothing is reported then nothing can be done to educate them.
This was sent to all referees and coaches:
1. Referee information for coaches
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Information that has been sent to referees:
Coaches Box. The coaching box is defined as the team bench area. A coach is allowed to wander from the front end of the team bench to the baseline. Do not allow any coaches any leeway on this. If the benches are too close to the scorekeeper’s table, move them further away. Same goes with a coach who is actually on the playing surface. Coaches lose all rights when they leave the coaches box, so warn them and bring them back into the designated area. Repeated offenses of this will constitute a technical foul. Coaches are not allowed at any time to enter the playing surface while play is underway. Please keep them off the floor and on the sideline within the designated area.
Approachability. If coaches are respectful, we are approachable. Once they become not respectful we are not approachable. Please lend an ear to all coaches if they come to you in a respectful manner. If they are not respectful, please warn them and if they continue in this manner, issue a technical foul. Communication is a big part of managing a game properly, which includes communication with coaches. Conversations with coaches should be brief and to the point to clarify any concerns or rule questions they may have. If communication from a coach means constant questioning of your judgment, please put a stop to this with a warning. Continued questioning of your judgment, which does not allow you to concentrate on your job, should result in a technical foul.
Dealing with Irate Coaches. Coaches do not have the right to question your judgment publicly. They are not allowed to do any grandstanding (i.e. indicating the traveling hand signal on the side line). They should not be allowed to continue questioning your judgment. If this continues, please warn the coach and stop this behaviour. We no longer use the words “coach sit down” or use the visual stop sign with your hand. The words “Coach, I heard year and that’s enough” is appropriate to use. Continued unacceptable behaviour should result in a technical foul. Once you have given a warning to a coach, this needs to be communicated to your partner. The warning means from both of you. If either one of you receives additional inappropriate behaviour, a technical foul should be issued to the coach.
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Coach Response to Referee, March 10, 2005
This reply by a ref demonstrates a problem I see developing. Referees can not take offense every time a coach approaches them in an appropriate manner. The message left by the coach was done so in an appropriate forum and in a respectful way. It addresses a legitimate concern that should be discussed, however, while the ref's reply contains many valid points it is also confrontational in places. I wonder if the rule that coaches are not allowed to question a referee's decisions is one of the causes of this mistrust or lack of respect between coaches and referees. Rightly or wrongly, this rule is being interpreted as coaches are not allowed to speak with a referee at all unless the gym supervisor is involved ( in the large schools you have one supervisor for 2 gyms and the coach may have to leave their game to speak to the supervisor). An important skill young referees need to develop is how to speak with a coach who approaches them appropriately and calmly asking for a clarification, or to keep an eye on a situation they see developing. I have witnessed more than one instance where a coach (adult) has approached a ref (child) very politely and appropriately during a break in the game and been answered disrespectfully in return. I am curious if others think my concern is legitimate or not. If it is, then how do we develop a better system of communication between coaches and referees?

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Referee Response to Aggresive Play, March 10, 2005

I take offense to this. In most cases it’s the attitudes of players and coaches that allows the game to get out of control, and sometime I feel like we have to babysit. I don’t feel bringing in SABO refs would improve anything and it would likely make it worse. When you bring in SABO refs to younger divisions they let lots go because they have a don’t care attitude (this is coming from supervising in gyms where there were SABO officials). There are exceptions to this too, just like there is the odd occassion when one of us has a bad game.
Coaches should be telling players to go out and play clean and not to question the calls of the refs. When players and coaches feel they can question an official’s call (which is getting worse by the game), this causes the game to get out of control. Reffing is one of the hardest jobs. Everyone is against you from tip off, looking for something to complain about. We don’t always ref a perfect game, but I have yet to see a perfectly played game either.
I had a game this weekend where I called 50 fouls and was still told it was a rough game. Refs can only do so much, players and coaches need to start taking ownership of their actions. If they want a clean game, then go out on the court with the attitude it’s going to be a clean game and stop testing and abusing the refs. After reffing for much longer than any of these kids have played (9 years) and playing since before most were born (14 years), I’m getting tired of having to defend all of my calls. Players should be taught that the ref is an authority figure, and coaches also need to abide by this because when players see their coaches questioning refs, they think it’s okay.
If coaches want us to treat their games with respect, please provide the official with that same respect.

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Regarding Aggresive Play Response March 10, 2005
I’ m also a coach in the S.M.B.A. and what I have notice is that the Refs have started to let alot more aggressive play go on in a game. As the refs allow players to get more aggressive the intensity level increases and so does the frustration that usually brings in the bad fouls or technicals. So if you want to bring sportsmanship back to the game maybe get some uniformity in the referring between the regular season and the playoffs. Maybe if the S.M.B.A. officials can’t control the games at the playoff level maybe we should get the SABO officials to handle the post season games. Just my opinion and if anyone agrees or disagrees maybe put your opinion on the web site.

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Aggresive Play March 9, 2005

I wanted to let you know how disappointed I am in how physically rough the games have turned during the playoffs. In our game last Saturday, I had to go out on the court at least 3 times to check to see if our players were OK. One of our players was also bit on the face. This is totally unacceptable behavior and lack of sportsmanship. I did share my concerns with the referees as well as the gym supervisor. I have several players who play multiple sports, and there were times I questioned whether I should send them out on the court for fear of them being injured. I was disappointed when I heard the opposing coach say to his players following the game “see what happens when you play tough”. I hope that it was not his strategy to play in this manner (not caring if players are getting injured and encouraging it) in order to win.
Over the weekend I talked to two other coaches in other divisions (both girls & guys) and was told that their games were also at times, “out of control”. In both instances technicals were given. What happens to players/coaches when in the playoffs?
I guess what I am saying, the game should be played to show ability, skill, sportsmanship and fun and if it is the intent to be rough, unsportsmanlike and not care if others are injured then we are losing focus of what this sport is all about.

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Modelling Good Sportsmanship. A reply from a coach, February 2, 2005

I coach the spuds level and I push the kids to do the best they can do, while always keeping in mind their limits and capacities. I am often suprised by the kids when they achieve beyond their and my own expectations.
All my kids know that hard work and repetition pay off. All my kids know I volunteer my time to coach and teach, not to play games or goof off. I instill this on day one and they all respect that. On the other hand, these kids have expectations from the coach that they will learn the skills, learn the game, learn respect and sportsmanship, build good friendships, experience teamwork and sharing, experience winning and losing, and experience what it takes to be good at a sport.
I have not read the comments you are replying too and I will as I am always looking at ways of becoming a better coach. But these people have to keep in mind that coaching is not easy, we all try our very best. I have never met a coach who puts in half an effort or coaches his kids to lose. It is usually quite the opposite, if there is any critism it is that coaches try to hard and want their kids to "over succeed". (if that is even a term in the world of sports).
If you are not happy with a coach, then please politely tell them to their face at the time in question. Most coaches are professionals, working people, parents - ie. people you can approach and talk to as an adult. This is often a learning experience for us too, and respectful, polite critical analysis is sometimes appreciated if it is deserved.

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Modelling Good Sportsmanship. A reply from a past coach, February 2, 2005

I feel compelled to reply to the parent who wrote in about "Modelling good Sportsmanship". I think that this parent is voicing one of the fundamental problems with our society today. Don't expect anything from the kids, don't correct them when they are doing wrong and God forbid that we don't make sure they "Have Fun at all Costs".

As a past coach of many years I was never concerned with point spread BUT I would make it clear to them if they won and played a rotten game that there was a problem - to the same degree that if they lost and played the best they could then they did fantastic. I was also one of the coaches that "yelled at the players from the sideline for not playing their position while the game is in play". If they are out of position and lost on the floor, they obviously need some help to find their position. Isn't it a coach's job to do that? On a basketball court, it requires a raised voice (yelling) in order to be heard.

If a coach respects his players then he or she will expect them to do what they have the ability to do. When we expect nothing from our children, then they will surely fullfill that expectation. Good sportsmanship does not disappear just because we put expectations on children. Rather, we need to teach them how to respond properly in every situation even when it isn't fun. Expectations can be high and still a positive enviroment prevail, just like one of the most negative conditions is where there are no expectations or encouragement to improve.

One of the most Fun things in life is to know that one has done the best that he/she could do and has worked hard at improving oneself. I don't know of any child that will ever accomplish self-improvement completely by themselves. It is the role of parents, coaches, teachers, and others in similar positions to help them do that, and without question, it requires more from those people than "Just go out and have fun, will you?" In any game there will be competition and you will be contending with another to come out the winner. This is not evil; sometimes in life we win and sometimes we lose, but we need to teach our children that winning and losing are both realities of life and somewhere along the line, there will ALWAYS be someone who requires us to do things a certain way in order to succeed.

GAME: A competitive activity or sport in which players contend with each other according to a set of rules.

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Modelling Good Sportsmanship from a parent, January 19, 2005
I am concerned about the level of “negative” coaching that I have been witness to this season. It is equally disturbing to notice this manner of coaching is getting results. I do commend coaches for their hard work and efforts. It’s obviously not a job for just anyone, and these people have dedicated their time to teaching our young people the skill and technique needed in playing a good game. Negative coaching takes a lot away from these efforts. Young people need skill and technique, and they also need to learn how to accept the losses or brush off the mistakes and learn from them. I have heard numerous comments about the “sore winner” syndrome, when winning itself isn’t enough to a coach and the players hear about it if the point spread wasn’t considered to be wide enough. I have witnessed players being yelled at from the sideline by a coach for not playing their position while the game is in play. I believe modelling respect and good sportsmanship is equal to teaching skill and technique. People of all ages learn best under positive conditions. After all, if the game isn’t fun, why is it called a game?
Thanks coaches. Overall, your time and effort is appreciated.
Comment from a parent.

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Teaching Skill, Comments from a coach, November 21, 2004:
I just wanted to make a comment on the importance of teaching good defensive skills at an early age. In Mini’s we have refs that try calling reaching fouls the best they can but at the same time understanding the range of skills and abilities at this age. I believe it is the coach’s responsibility to stress not to reach or slap at the ball and use your feet to get in good position. We need to instill good habits early. It is easier than trying to break bad habits later. Unfortunately, the defensive players do get “rewarded” in terms of steals and cheers but mainly because the other player may still be learning the fundamentals. When a game gets scrappy with balls flying all over the refs maybe should call a few more reaching fouls to try re-enforce proper defense but ultimately coaches need to tell their players hands off and don’t slap or reach in. As players progress into higher age groups with more strong players they will get fouls and get beat on defense. Players with better skills will recognize bad defense and know when to blow by them if the D reaches for the ball. It is frustrating to see kids trying hard only to have some one come in slapping rather then getting in good defensive position. Good defensive fundamentals give both sides the opportunity to improve and learn.

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Fair Playing Time, Comments from a coach, November 11, 2004:
In response to the November 7 comments regarding "fair playing time" the coach has a valid point, but there are problems with mandating equal minutes as well and it has nothing to do with winning or losing games.

I think playing time should be earned and the kids who come to practice, work hard and have a good attitude no matter where their ability level lies should get the bulk of the playing time. Kids who miss practices, are lazy or display a poor attitude should likely get playing time, but why equal to the kids that put in the time.

The Regina Church League put in an equal playing time rule and every player gets timed equal playing time. A friend of mine who coached a youth team said he had players who didn`t attend a week day practice for the entire season, but came to almost every game. What`s fair about this for the kids who came to every practice and worked hard.

I think the purpose of the SMBA is to provide young athletes the opportunity to learn and play basketball. Besides learning the technical side of the game the kids should have the opportunity to learn about hard work and rewards associated with commitment.

Everyone should always try to remember there are two sides to every issue and try to meet somewhere in the middle. I think the minimum 10 minute rule is about as close to the middle as I can see possible, but I know there may be other ideas on this matter.   

Fair Playing Time, Comments from a coach, November 7, 2004:
Fair playing time is fair playing time. The 10 minute minimum rule should be tossed out and replaced with something that requires a more even distribution of playing time among all players. Coaches may have to come to grips with losing games more often but, what the heck, kids should be out there having fun, not sitting on the bench because they're not the best player on the team.

Supervisor Letter, Ocotber, 2004:

Hello and welcome back to another year with the SMBA.
We are looking forward to another exciting year. This league continues to grow each year showing the increase in support for basketball and youth athletics.
Unfortunately, along with these advances come some setbacks. As a coach/player you are entitled to a certain responsibility. Our increased awareness of this responsibility was sparked by a number of incidents that took place during last years playoffs.
These incidents included: Coaches inappropriately yelling at supervisors/referees, coaches belittling supervisors/referees, and improper language used by players and coaches towards supervisors/referees.
This league is not only a place for players to improve their skills, but it serves as an encouraging atmosphere for players to meet new friends and learn life skills. Furthermore, many of our officials start in Grade 9 and 10, which means this is their first job.
With this in mind, coaches and players need to help maintain this positive atmosphere. When coaches and players yell/belittle/swear at supervisors/referees, this atmosphere is destroyed. It creates unnecessary arguing and intimidates the referees. Because most of our referees have little experience, this is an unnecessary burden for them to carry.
Coaches should be especially aware of their actions. They are the natural leader of the team, and should act accordingly. When a coach inappropriately yells and/or swears, this is giving players the wrong message. This is something the SMBA does not want. You should support the players of this league and encourage proper sportsmanship at all times. Remember, you are responsible for your players. Kids look up to the coaches, so choose your actions wisely.
Overall, we are very happy with the way the league is progressing and with the people that make this league so successful. We just want to remove the few kinks that erupted during last years playoffs.
We are looking forward to making this season even more successful than last, but it all begins with you.
SMBA Gym Supervisors

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Comments from a coach, February 16, 2004:

Thanks Ian,

Congratulations and thank you Ian for another successful year of coordinating and overseeing the Spuds Basketball Program. My parents and players would like to thank you for your enthusiasm and effort in making spuds the best basketball division in town. Our team would like to thank the gym supervisors for their patience with the numerous questions they had to answer every week; namely, where is the bathroom and is there a water fountain nearby? This is by far, ask any coach, the most enjoyable division to coach because of the participants' enthusiasm and willingness to always try their best. The development/improvement/growth I have seen in the division is quite remarkable in my six years of coaching spuds. This is one of the key times in a young basketball player's development to learn some skills and to understand/demonstrate fair play/good sportsmanship. Having fun while playing the game still is and must always be our number one objective! We want the kids to grow and develop as people/players as they progress from Spuds right through to Juvenile. If the kids keep playing year after year and are still enjoying playing the game, then we are achieving our purpose. Our spud coaches in the league this year and in the years past, the players, and our ever-supportive parents have consistently demonstrated the right attitude toward achieving the right goals, and all should be congratulated for their efforts. We just need to remember to maintain this perspective as the kids progress through the higher divisions. The game is for the kids: always has been and always should be. Thanks for the many pictures taken each week; it is a highlight for kids of all ages.

Sincerely,

Anonymous

Comments from a coach, January 29, 2004:

Coaches/Players Behavior Toward Ref's and Opponents

I think the SMBA is an excellently run organization and league, and sportsmanship and behavior problems are not the norm, but the exception. My daughter is a ref, I coach and have three children playing at different age levels. I am of the opinion that the coaches, as the adults in the equation have got to take more responsibility for their own conduct as well as for their players. In addition to the comments I just read about concerning some parents' behaviors this past Saturday, I will add that I saw more poor sportsmanship on this one single day than at any time in the last 6 years I have been involved in the SMBA. I do not want to see this become the norm.

What I observed was my daughter who refs Mini's, be continually criticized by the coach at the Mini's level (not that it is acceptable at any level). This went all game and this coach even went as far to offer a post-game critique to her. Who made this guy a gym supervisor and what happened to the rule about talking to the ref's? My daughter likely erred by not ejecting this guy and having a report written up on him, but she is a first year ref that is just learning. I question if she will ref next year due to incidents such as this. This coach has to grow up and take more responsibility for their own conduct as well as for their players.

And then in a game involving the team I coach, we had the misfortune to play a team that gets more satisfaction from celebrating fouls than baskets. The harder and more intentional the foul was, the greater the celebration and this went on all game despite ref warnings. The coach of this team has to take the responsibility for these actions or he sends the message that these types of actions are acceptable, which was exactly how this played out. The ref's dealt with this in the best possible manner, but the game entirely got away from what the kids were there for in the first place, to play the game for fun and in a sportsmanlike manner. This coach has to take more responsibility for their own conduct as well as for their players.

In both situations, I thought the root of the problem was the coach. For what happens on the court, the coaches have to bear the responsibility for how ref's are treated and to keep their own players in line. These types of incidents don't happen frequently in SMBA, but they should not occur at all.

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Comments from a coach, January 28, 2004:

Abusive Parents

As a parent and a coach it is very important that we help the ref's to take charge and instill in them our confidence and support. 
There is no excuse for parents to be abusive or disrespectful to these young referees.After all they are only human and do make mistakes. I was at a game last Saturday and there was no doubt in my mind that a parent overstepped the line during the game. The referee I thought handled it very well. He is to be commended. Coaches should be told to make sure parents understand what zero tolerance means. Exactly that! Basketball as a sport should build characters and giving a sense of well being to the kids. Unruly behavior sends the wrong message. 

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Comments from a coach, January 24, 2004:

SCREENING AT THE MINI GIRLS LEVEL

This is an issue I would like addressed at the coaches meeting in February. 

I have some major concerns regarding screening at the Mini Girls level. I would equate this will the concept of "hitting" in hockey.

Not all teams have coaches that have experience, not that it is a necessary thing; however, as a coach and a parent I have observed far too many moving screens-this will undoubtedly result in someone become seriously injured.

The game, at this level, is intended to teach skill and to provide an opportunity for a player to continue to play the game for years to come.  From my observation far too many coaches are coaching simply to win the game. In doing this they target two or three players from their own team that drive or shot-if that is there tactic it has no bearing on me or my players; however, the rest of the girls are not learning the game.

Where screening falls into place here is that, first and foremost, screens are not being taught properly and there are moving screens all over the court.  The players are not being taught how to properly screen and the players having a screen set for them have not been taught to wait-and as a result you end up with moving screens. The referees have obviously not been taught what a moving screen is or that it is illegal, because they are not calling them.   It is clearly obvious they do not even know when they are occurring and so it is my conclusion that they do not even know that a moving screen is illegal or how they should call it.

All it will take is one player to knock another player down on the concrete floor and there will be a serious injury. Once this occurs you end up with a lose-lose situation-either the player having someone setting an illegal screen on them gets a neck injury OR the player setting the illegal screen hits her head onto the concrete floor. And in both these situations it is the players setting the screen that is at fault.

This issue is a serious one and needs to be addressed.  We cannot be so desperate for the big "win" that it comes at all costs.

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Comments from a coach, January 22, 2004:

Re: Coaching Certification.
I have attained the NCCP Level 1 Coaching certification in basketball.
It is my opinion that certification should be encouraged at all levels of our league. The theory portion and the knowledge gained in developing teams for any sport is invaluable. (Upon, reading the recent comments from the parent in the Coaches/Parents Forum I would suggest this particular coach may benefit from a coaching course on working with children, community sports, etc.) The fundamentals, skill development, etc. are an on-going process - I continue to draw on the expertise of our more experienced coaches - and am aware of my limitations. Coaching is not just knowing the game - but knowing how to develop relationships within your team. My Community Association covered the cost for attendance at coaches' clinics last year.
A concerned coach

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On Saturday, I witnessed some poor sportsmanship and leadership from a coach. So I am wanting to remind all coaches that you need to demonstrate and instruct your players in fair play and honorable behavior. On Saturday, I watched a coach hit the wall with his fist in the first five minutes and throughout the game jumping up to the side line to yell at the referee that a foul needed to be called against the opposing team. He went to the point of continually pointing out one player on the opposite team who happened to be a challenge for his players. My question is that through his constant yelling at the referee did he cause this referee to unfairly succumb to pressure and call fouls on this player resulting in him being fouled out of the game. The boy who was fouled out knows it was not a valid call. So who wins in this case. No body.  

Everyone is competitive and likes to watch a good basketball game. However, no one likes to see unfair tactics used to win the game and the players/parents see through this. Remember coaches, you are representing the community or private group that you registered your team under. Therefore they need to reflect the values of these groups through responsible behavior and temperaments.

mother of a player

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Comments from a coach, November 23, 2004:

I am adamantly against having mini's games in gymnasiums with 10 foot rims. Especially with the mini girls. We coaches spend a lot of time getting the younger girls practicing lay-ups using 9 foot rims and then put them in game situations with 10 foot rims and there shooting percentages are often zero. This is very, very frustrating. I think it would be less disruptive to put bantams in small gyms then mini's on high rims. The mini boys aren't as big a problem on high rims, but it still is an undesirable situation. You should schedule as carefully as possible to keep the mini out of gyms with rims fixed at 10 feet.

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Spring league comments from a coach, June 11, 2003:

I understand and appreciate the more relaxed atmosphere of the spring league play; however use of the score clock would be helpful if nothing else for knowing when to sub, it is very easy to lose track of time and when you are trying to be fair you end up short changing some kids because you don't know the time situation. And as far as keeping score everyone wants to know the score, it is a game after all and it is what motivates kids to play.

Spring league comments from a coach, June 9, 2003:

I have enjoyed following discussions on the SMBA website. They are certainly interesting and represent a wide range of views on the spring league and how it should be run. Now that the season has concluded I thought I'd add my two cents.

I very much like how the league operated this year. It provided kids who wanted to extend their basketball season a chance to do so. I enjoyed the informal nature of the league. It felt like a throwback to the times when kids could just divide up and play without the worry of scoreboards and hollering coaches.

The spring league provided the necessities to play a structured game without it becoming overly coached or competitive. Athletes were given a team to play on, a coach to get things organized, a schedule to provide opponents and officials to keep things running smoothly. If someone were looking for more than that then he could puruse a more elite basketball experience on his high school team, provincial team, Huskie development team or other countless opportunities available to him. I know not all teams are in this league simply to let kids play a little more basketball. There are elite teams fine tuning for the upcoming summer tournaments, there are school teams preparing for the next season and that's a good thing but I do think lots of the kids are in this league to have fun, hopefully play hard and maybe even develop some friendships. In all likelihood they will not go on to become elite players.

This spring I had the opportunity to coach one of these young men. Matthew has never played on his high school team and never will. He lives on the extreme west side of Saskatoon and somehow was placed on my east side team. Despite his limited skill he worked hard and was a consistent attender at games and practices. After a late game at Marion Graham one night, I gave him a ride home. It seemed to take hours to get there and I asked him how he had got to the game. "Bus," he said. "It must have taken a while to get there," I said. "About an hour and a half," he replied. I was stunned.

We had played games at Hardy, Bowman and Bedford. We had practiced at Nutana and this kid had been on city buses for over two hours every time we practised or played. If there is an award for the most committed player of the year, he deserves it.

I'm not sure what the spring league will look like for next year. But before we change what we have and introduce scoreboards and uniform numbers (translation: winners and losers), let's ask ourselves what this league represents and how we can best serve all the youngsters who wish to play this wonderful game, including kids like Matthew.

June 4, 2003 Spring league coaches and referees comments:

I thought the league was well run. Reversables with a number on the front would make recording fouls a lot smoother. Jump balls going to the defensive team is easier than alternating.

1. The jerseys are fine as is.
2. Let the press be by agreement of both coaches.
3. Structure was fine.
4. The only game we got stomped was the last one (perhaps they should have played elsewhere).
5. Club teams should play within a club team division.
6. This format allowed our girls to progress as individuals, they developed confidence and skills, and had a great time. (except last game-not a bad average).

Jerseys were great but a number would have made it easier to call fouls.
Straight FIBA rules.
Score and fouls should be kept to make it a real game rather than just a scrimage.
Dividing league into stronger a weaker divisions would insure all players benefit.
Club teams are fine as long as there is a highly competative division.
The spring league provided us with good practices and learning opportunity as we prepare to travel this summer. Thanks.

1. Liked Reversible Jerseys, keep them
2. No zone D, like the option of being able to use a full court press.
3. Running score should be kept.
Team fouls should be recorded. Score clock not necessary as long as coaches are aware of how much time is left. Refs were good, it's helpful to have two refs at every game.
4. I really liked the set up of the league. Do not want to see it divided and players categorized, the best way to improve is to play against people who are better than you, coaches should be considerate of weaker teams and should use that time to practice running their plays or set rules for their own team (ex. they must pass three times before shooting).
5. I like the idea of having club teams involved.
They usually work well together and it's good for other players to watch teams working as a unit.
6. Thanks for the opportunity to coach two SMBA teams this spring! It was a great experience and a lot of fun! I liked the way the league was run and I very much admire your dedication and committment to the league! Thanks Ian!

I thought the league set up was very good. In all cases I was involved in there was mutual agreement that the score sheet was not necessary and though we knew the final score (thanks to zealous parents) there was little concern from the players or myself. The shortage of refs on the last weekend was tough for one person to do a game but scheduling difficulties such as these will happen. There may be other view points regarding the competitive nature of the league, but I found it gave the girls an opportunity to play in a competitive fashion yet not worry about score etc. Thanks again for all your efforts to make Saskatoon basketball a success. Your efforts have allowed my two daughters and myself the opportunity to enjoy a fantastic game in a well organized league.

6. I think SMBA does a great job at getting kids involved and playing basketball. I firmly believe that it would improve the quality of basketball in Saskatoon if we divided the league into the different levels of competitiveness. We are currently seeing a significant decrease in the talent pool coming out of Saskatoon at the BSI identification levels. I think that SMBA could help reverse this by adding a competitive division and continuing to allow club teams to become involved.

Thanks again for a great league - all your hard work and your mountain sized patience!!!!!
Have a great summer!

If there is any money left, I would send pizza coupons to all of the caretakers in the schools that were used.. Say it is from the basketball players in the SMBA. Its amazing how far that kind of thing goes when they evaluate at their union meetings.
Our games were always competitive. There is no need to stream at the 10,11 level, especially with no score clock.
Because we did not keep a visible score, it was easy to have fun and play equal floor time, platooning etc. It was like playing golf without keeping score. You feel good about the one in four good shots. You didn't worry about the three that were not so good. .
I always had a parent keep tab of a running score for both teams; individual scoring, and fouls for our team; only for the purpose of later reference to see how we and the players were doing, what we could work on etc. Ahead of time I talked with and trusted the other coach to do the same, and deal with any of his own players that might be too aggressive. It all worked well. I have a great deal of confidence in and respect for the other coaches.
The referees were excellent. I always tell my kids to keep their mouths shut and talk to me if they feel they have been wronged, that it all evens out in the end. I also tell them that discretionary calls go in favor of the players that are most polite.
In retrospect I think we should number the shirts, simply it is easier to get a forgotten shirt back to the right player. The shirts can also be used in post league and summer tournament play, which is good advertising for the SMBA league. Duplication of numbers is not a big deal. If a kid carries a shirt to the next year. Shirts that are this year begin with numbers 0 and 1. Next year 2 and 3. Next year 4 and 5 and then next year 0 and 1. That gives you 12 new numbers each year and is unlikely as teams regroup each year that there will be duplciation. The only thing that should be prohibitive in the numbering is the additional cost.
Spring league does not need score clocks. It is for fun and floor time. Score clocks require the hosting school to have them out and ready to go. If that is the case you will have to go with a gym supervisor in each school with keys and know how to set up, take care of, and put away the score clocks etc. You cannot rely on the teams to do that, and I doubt if the refs would take that on. Keys to the facility and access to the score clock would be a problem.
All things concerned. The organizers got this one right with little flaw that I could see. Paying the coaches. I simply used the money to purchase basketballs, stick um, contraceptives, master keys to the schools were playing in, and refreshments for team parties. It was nice to have the money, so I was not out of pocket at the end.
Thanks for a great spring league. I quite enjoyed it. The players were responsive and fun. They learned to use both hands, jump in a controlled fashion to shoot and rebound, do a proper screen and roll, and run a simple weak side.

1.The reversible jerseys were awesome, the girls seemed to really like them and they were nice and durable!
2.I thought the rules on full court press,double teaming etc. worked really well! They matched the skil level the girls were at and challenged them too learn a little bit more of the rules of the game.
3.I though the score sheets etc were all done really well, but i think at this age level keeping score is not something that needs to be done! The smba is for developing skills with the players and not to have won team be a winner and one a loser.
4.Dividing the girls up i think would be the best bet! Some of the girls on my team had played for as many as 4 years while others were picking up a basketball for one of their first times. I think the division allows the less skilled,or practiced girls develop their skills without being so intimidated and scared, while the more advanced are not held back because of the less advanced players.
5.Club teams have been going on for w hile now and although i dont think there fair playing against other girls with no experience, i think its a developmental league and theres nothgin wrong with them wanting to play.
6.This is my first year being involved coaching in the SMBA and i have loved every minute of it! My experience with the team i was envolved with,parents and reffing staff etc. was all positive! Thanks for the opportunity to experience this and i hope you will consider me in the future for other positions in the SMBA. Thanks!

1. The reversible jerseys that the players can use in the future (with
> or without numbers)*
I thought that this was a great idea. It took the girls a little while to learn to recognize the person that they were guarding as opposed to looking for a number.
> *2. Straight FIBA rules with full course press and no zones or zone
> presses for all teams or as the past few years where coaches could
> decide about the full court press.*
I think that the kids need to learn to play defense one-on-one and not worry about zone defenses, they can learn that in high school. Besides, good one-on-one defense needs to be learned to have an effective zone defense anyways.
> *3. League structure regarding score sheets and fouls /points/ refs/
> score clocks*
We only used the score sheets once because we didn't feel it was necessary. The refs kept good control of all of our games and if someone was fouling too much the refs would ask the coach to sit the player for a bit and to show them how to fix what they were doing wrong.
> *4. If possible would you favour dividing the league up into highly
> competitive, competitive, competitive recreational (as this year) based on the players that you had*
I would highly favour dividing up the league. We played against 3 teams that had the majority of their players with novice basketball skills. The girls that we coached had some excellent basic skills and were a bit disappointed (us coaches as well) when they weren't challenged in the majority of the games.
> *5. Club teams entered in the league*
I would recommend staying away from having the club teams play because they have BSI to play. I know that BSI is trying to combine with SMBA because BSI isn't getting many players from Saskatoon. But if kids want to play BSI there is the opportunity for the kids to play basketball 4 nights a week. Which is great for skill development and conditioning and getting to meet kids from other schools. I wish that I had had the opportunity to play basketball 4 nights a week instead of only having BSI practices.
> *6. Other concerns or constructive comments.*
I think you did a great job Ian with the league this spring and I look forward to helping out again next year.

.1. The reversible jerseys that the players can use in the future (with or without numbers)
By having no numbers, (and by not recording the fouls) it emphasized that Spring League is just for development and for having fun. Although next year, i suggest a more variety of colors, it got boring reffing just blue and white...haha
2. Straight FIBA rules with full course press and no zones or zone presses for all teams or as the past few years where coaches could decide about the full court press. Keep it the same
3. League structure regarding score sheets and fouls /points/ refs/ score clocks
By not using a clock, recording fouls and points, it made the league have a fun atmosphere. The refs just have to know that if one kid is fouling too much that they should sit out. Use your sense of judgment with taking a player out of the game.
4. If possible would you favour dividing the league up into highly competitive, competitive, competitive recreational (as this year) based on the players that you had
Yes, if you divided it into A and B pools even. Some of the teams I reffed this weekend, lost every game due to the reason that the team was made up of kids who were just trying out the sport of basketball.
5. Club teams entered in the league
Yes, it's a good idea, as long as they still understand that Spring Leauge is about development and having fun.
6. Other concerns or constructive comments.
Job well done with spring league this season!!
--i also recommend on telling the SABO ref's that the players are LEARNING and not to make the calls with the actions that they would be if they were refing high school games

I am in favour of splitting the division into tiers.

I liked the reversilbles but thought they possibly needed numbers. Because I am hugely in favour of keeping scores! Well at least fouls because not being able to be punished for doing things wrong is promoting bad habits. We are teaching kids to be hacky!

I think that leaving the press up to coaches is a great idea too!

All went fairly well this year as it was my first time coaching boys.

Don Vogt and I both would like to mention the structure as far as talent level is concerned. Our team consisted of a variety of skill levels mostly new ball players. We played other teams that defineatly had more exposure to the game. Dividing the teams would definately help and as I see a must for next year. Having two teams that are on opposite ends of the skill spectrum is not helping either team or the moral of the players. On a positive note our last game was by far the best with both teams being equal in skill and strength. I believe all the boys had a great game and went home satisfied with their effort. This will definately help to acquire new players for next season.

I believe that taking the score out of the game for this short season really promoted growth in all of my athletes. The weaker players gained the confidence to try new skills in a game situation, and the stronger players learned the value of getting everyone involved in the game.

The reversibles were a great idea, and the kids are more likely to wear them in the summer (which promotes the league), without a huge number pasted on the back. Dividing the league up might be an option to consider, but I don't think that I saw enough games to say that this is absolutely necessary.

Thanks again for a great six weeks, and have an awesome summer!!

I just wanted to thank you for all of your time and effort in organizing the Spring League again this year. My girls had a lot of fun and even over such a short period of time, they improved their skills. It is unfortunate that it is so short because we were all sad to see it end. The only unfortunate thing about the Spring League this year was the great discrepancy of how things were handled from game to game. I read the website and I know that we were supposed to keep track of fouls and unofficially keep track of the score. However, in at least half of our games this was not done. It is too bad that coaches can't be responsible enough to follow the rules. I never forced the issue with any other coaches and we kept track on our own bench of our players fouls for their sake. Nevertheless, I thought everything went well and all of my girls found it to be a positive experience. I will gladly coach again next year! Thanks again.

should they be allowed to compete in the same division as those that are formed by the SMBA?
I don't think that should be allowed, I think there should be zones, so as to prevent team "stacking."

I think with the new rules and boundary definitions the fall & winter league will be improved, but will always be evolving and changing to meet the players needs.

I also feel that it is likely time the league looked at changing the spring league set-up.

I think we should use the regular season rules for the spring league. This will allow younger players the chance to play up to the rules they will play under during the next fall/winter season.

I also think we would be taking a step backward if we didn`t allow "club teams" to particpate. (Even B.S.I. is now allowing club teams to enter).

I do think there should be some guidelines as to how club teams can be formed, and I think the new Zone system would be the easiest. Also these club teams can play in next years league under the same format.

If we continue to allow club teams, which are usually stronger, I think a good option would be to have two tiers in each age bracket ... one listed as instructional and one as competitive. We could then keep track of fouls, show the time and team fouls on the score clock, and even possibly show the score in at least the competitive division.

The one other thing I might suggest is to treat the wind-up games weekend as a real tournament, but only give t-shirts to the winning teams in each division.

I like the reversible. If it comes to the point that scorekeeping is important, I believe you should go to numbers. Even if you have two 9's on a team, it would probably be easier to tell the scorekeeper which one it is.

As for keeping score and track of fouls, it is not necessary. I believe the coaches are more relaxed which is leading to better instruction. Also, the competition is not lost because we are not keeping score. Every player, and coach for that matter, are trying their best to win even though a score is not kept. In my experience the only questions came up when coaches would say well I getting all these emails telling me to. I would prefer the rules state scores will not be kept, but tell referees to talk to anyone who might want to abuse the fact that the number of fouls are not kept. Which, by the way, did not occur in any games I saw.

I had 3 games officiated with one referee, and believe they were done as well or better. I think we should go to one referee per game, but not at double pay.

I don't think tiering the league is necessary. If there is a team that feels they will be too strong for their division they can play up one.

As for rules, I'm not sure I like full court pressing at the lower levels.

I thought the league was well put together as usual, the only thing that i thought could be changed was that at the end of the season the kids could have a tournement; not just three games at the end. I know my girls really would have liked that. then again we were a well put together team, it would just be a nice way to end the season.thanks for the good team and good luck next year.

Some spring league comments May24, 2003

I think this format is perfect.
It is my opinion that young athletes need more opportunity to learn skills in a less formal environment (SMBA spring league, pick up games, drive way shooting, etc.)
The athletes know who's winning based on a feel for the game, this is an important component of the development of game instincts.

Is the league competitive enough? My quick answer to that is no.
Our team this fall/winter was middle of the pack in pool B. Since then, a few our stronger players moved up with the age change and the new players are green and young to say the least. Despite that, we have won our two games 66 - 13 and 50 - 18. Those two games have obviously not been competitive.
We play a team tomorrow that is made up of some of the stronger players from three different teams this past season. I suspect we are going to have our hands full in that game which only makes me wonder what they have or are doing to the two teams we have already played.
Are we playing by all the rules? Yes we generally are and the referees have been doing an okay job of "cutting some slack" for the younger less experienced players. As for the score sheets, frankly we do not care. We keep a number of statistics on our bench including the score so both our coaches and players know where we are at. Personally, I would like to see us use the clock and scoreboards to create a more real game experience and also then having the parents/fans more enthused.

Ian, as a parent I would like to suggest that the Spring League is run ina fantastic way. In a simple explanation, given the challenges that are presented to you, you have done a top notch job. Thankyou. From a coaching perspective, I think some of the coaches had challenges incorporating all participants considering there were first time players and players who have considerable playing experience. From what I saw coaches were gnerally successfully with that scenario.

I think the Spring League is running fine but a standard score sheet available at each game would make things easier as scores should be kept for all age groups above Bantam as well as fouls. Score clocks and player numbers are not necessary. Score sheets were to be downloaded from the web site and brought to games by the home team (the first named team)
The league is a very short season with the ambition for everyone to simply keep playing. I do have a concern where some teams are allowed to enter as a unit while others are put together with only a few practises and then play each other based on selected evenings. I think tiering two levels of play - A League - Teams entered B League - Teams formed would create more challenging games. Ex. My team has 4 players who played together before 4 players who have never played and 4 players who have played but not together. 10 of them are in Grade 8. We have played Gr 9 Frosh teams which have been together since last fall and most players are physically bigger, taller and stronger not to mention more experienced.

Hi Ian - re feedback. Overall I think was good. As you might recall I had 3 boys that wanted to play together to start and then you put boys from various areas together to make up a team which I would coach. As it turned out we ended up being a strong team and none of our games have been close in spite of no pressing, moving players to different positions which they are unaccustomed to etc. I'm not sure how to get stronger teams or weaker teams playing against each other (so everyone has more fun) because of the short season and the fact that a lot of coaches have no idea how strong their team is at the beginning of the year but if possible I think it would be a significant improvement. Since the league isn't keeping track of wins and losses maybe after say 2 or 3 games the coach's could be asked by email to rate their teams by strength and then before the final draw or other games are scheduled someone (probably you!) could try and get like rated teams playing each other. Hope all is well - thanks for all the effort you put into basketball - I know the leagues are much better for it.

I feel that we shouldn't even have scoresheets. I know people are concerned about the level of competition going down but the point of spring league is to keep these kids skills refined not about the elements of the scoresheet. BSI doesn't keep a scoresheet or a clock and it is still very competitve. I
am sick of hearing people concerned about refs, scoresheets etc. let the kids play and have fun.

Just to clarify, I want to be able to register a team, not neccessrily a "club" team. We're not having any trouble with fouls so far this year. The kids are playing pretty clean on all the teams we have played. The ref's are calling pretty close, which is good. The numbers on the shirt would be nice, but not a big deal.The key thing is, this is a good program. Let's not make it so planned that it is just an extension of the winter program.

Comments, on this year's spring league. Since I have done this before, it doesn't seem too overwhelming. However, if I had never coached spring league before it might be a different story. There are no gym supervisors in spring league. So there is a much bigger onus on the coaches to get everything running and organized. Yes, there is a lot of information on the web site but it could use a little more organization. I found that in my first year a conversation with Scott, then director, got me up to speed with what I could expect and what needed to be done. I suggest, that a check list should be given to all coaches to help organize things. Including, setting up team benches and timekeepers tables, getting a parent to keep score, filling out a score sheet and getting your team organized as well.

I think the refereeing in the league is excellent and I hope that the refs continue with the attitude they seem to have of officiating as well as educating the players.

As for the numberless jerseys, I strongly disagree with the lack of numbers. Having numbers gives the advantage of easier recording of fouls and allows for better score keeping. While individual stats are not the goal of this league, the recording of the stats does help the coach to know whether or not the scoring is evenly distributed. The 'theory' that the jerseys can be re-used is fine but a team with 2 or three number 8s would be the same as the current system where players would have to give their names to the ref. Also numbers can be modified with tape for the relatively short season.

1.Personally I liked the idea of reversable jerseys, but I also would have like numbers on jerseys(as did every player on the team).
2.I like the rules on the no zones and no pressing. I had a team full of inexperienced players. I had enough to teach them with just man on man defense......much less zone defense.
3.Score sheets seem to work fine.....but to keep up with player fouls is a huge hassel. Refs were very good. A score clock would be a nice feature. But not absolutely necessary.
4.If you had enough teams to divide them up I dont think it would be a bad idea.
5.I think club teams are great. It allows all the kids to play with their friends.
6.I know it wasnt your fault (Mount Royal cancelled) But half court games arent fun. Score clocks would be nice. My team really disliked the fact that they had to play girls in a guys league. Lastely the end tournament wasn't really a tournament. It should be done like a double elimination thing or something like that. A tournie where there is medals and consolation finals and such.

May 6, 2003

Coaches comment

In regards to the latest comment made by a coach, I would like to congratulate him on having a succesful last ten years. I played in the SMBA for two years, and have since reffed and coached in the SMBA. I would like to give some parents and coaches some insight from a young person, a ref and a coach.
        As a player, I played for fun. In the Midget Girls B league, that's what we were there for. We let A league be competitive. But that doesn't mean that all A leagues should be competitive. When a mini boys A coach starts yelling at a ref, not only does the coach embarrass themselves, but they embarrass the other coach, the players, and the parents in the stands. The kids want to play. To them, a foul is a foul. They'll keep on playing anyhow. The kids are NEVER as competitive as the coach. And they should all be playing equal time, especially in Bantam. Just because nobody keeps track of shifts doesn't mean it shouldn't still be fair. Now, shorting a kid of two minutes isn't going to be the end of the world, and if a player has lots of fouls they should be kept out, but no one should go home feeling as though they sat the bench the whole game.
Also, coaches please lay off the refs. Most refs realize when they make a bad call, but rarely will they go back on their call. THEY WILL LEARN, so it's not up to the coaches to break their backs. The supervisors do a really good job of that anyways! Just keep in mind that in the minds of the kids, how great the season is, how much fun the team has, and how much each child learned, isn't influenced by one bad call unless the coach makes a big deal out of it.
Something that I noticed as a coach is how different teams can be. My spring league team of 7-year-old boys knew nothing about the game, but they had more fun losing every game than if I would have pushed them to win win win. This year I have grade 8 girls. It is an extremely different experience, as these girls all play competitive sports of some kind. I was horrified, as a ref, to learn that these girls were taught to intentionally foul a player who is attempting a layup on a breakaway. These girls were taught that it is better to foul and make the girl shoot free throws than to play proper defense. I have spent the last three weeks trying to break them of this habit. They are in grade 8, and I believe that these intentional fouls will only hurt them in the future. Attitude is everything, and that is what I am trying to teach these girls. I would rather see my team lose a few games but be supportive of one another

May 4, 2003

Coaches comment

I've coached for ten years in the SMBA taking my oldest son through the various age groups and having now just completed the journey with my youngest son who graduates to grade nine this year. I must say that there haven't been too many down times during my tenure. I've met some wonderful parents and made friends with most of the boys in the neighbourhood. It's a real pleasure to walk through the mall or a school and have several of the boys yell, "Hey coach!"
When I started, I was called one night, sick with the flu, and told that the SMBA needed a spare coach in my neighbourhood otherwise they wouldn't be able to field a team. I accepted and ran to the library to learn about basketball. Football was my game. I didn't know anything about hoops but having a super tall son forced me to learn very quickly. I progressed through the levels taking coaching clinics until I wrote my level three last year and passed. I learned to love the strategy of the game and the skills these boys bring to the game. Above all I learned to accept that each and every one of my players over the years have brought their own "something" to the game, whether that something is talent, heart or enthusiasm. It's all important.
To those of you just entering this league with your child, I can say with all certainty that this league is by far the best run sport in the city and I've been involved in various other sports for kids. The time and energy that the people who run this league put in on a weekly basis is tremendous. They really have a desire to continue to have this league stand alone at the top when it comes to kids sports. Have no fear that you are getting into a league where the almighty coach's ego prevails because I can assure you that the executive of the SMBA will make sure that the kids come first.
In my experience, a very, very small percentage of the coaches in this league, and were talking in excess of 100 plus teams, are putting their ego's first. We're human unfortunately and there are those times that competition rears it's ugly head necesitating in a coach "shortening his bench". Fair? Not at all, however it does happen. I view it as a sign of a coach who needs to work at balancing the skills and attitudes that his players have brought to the team. Even the most inexperienced player can be taught the basics so long as the coach knows them as well. That's where the coaching clinics come in. You coaches...take them! Most community associations will reimburse you the costs and they are invaluable.
The most important thing that as a coach, we have to remember is the impact of what we do, how we act and what message we leave our players with can impact them for the rest of their lives. No joke coaches! Fact! This is about building up a child's self esteem not ripping it apart. When mistakes are made, positive reinforcement goes a long way. "Good try! I want you to try this, okay?" Remember, this is not the NBA. These are our kids. Don't live vicariously through your kids and don't use your teams to build your own ego. There are other means to repair your ruptured self esteem.
Over the years, I've learned some harsh lessons as a coach. The ref's are young and learning. As a coach, the best thing that I can do is to "Shut up!" Simple yet it took me many years to learn this. Give these kids a break. They have a tough job and they are learning to deal with a game that is so fast that split second decisions are made, whether right or wrong. To any of the refs that I questioned or yelled at, my sincere apologies. As we get older, we forget what it's like to be young.
Coaches, play your kids as evenly as you can. Some of you use the excuse that "I asked my team, do you want to win or do you want to have fun?" This is an excuse to play your best players all the time. A cop out! Come on! What kid is not going to say, "Win!" We all know that each and everyone of them is out here to have fun, play with their friends and not embarrass themselves. That's where you come in, dear coaches. Learn the skills yourself so that you can properly teach yor brood to play with confidence. Every year I told my teams that not everyone is a shooter and not everyone is a scorer. Do what you do well. Strive to be the best at what you are confident in whether it's defence or dribbling.
Lastly...defence wins games people...defence...not offence. You can win a game 1-0 if the other team doesn't score. Teach defence and eveyone, parents, players and you yourself will suceed. In ten years, this is something that I've learned and taught to my teams. Yes I have had some very successful years winning in tournaments and going undefeated and yet other years didn't look as successful on the score clock but they were in my mind, just as successful because we had a great time and we played tough "D". Tough defence can and has beaten a hand picked team, and unfortunately these teams do still crop up, it seems every year and in every division. Hopefully the tiering of the divisions can eliminate any unbalance that may occur. The strong teams are urged to move up at Christmas and the weaker teams to move down. This is a great move on the part of the SMBA as it allows for closer games. Remember, it all comes down to our kid's self esteem. Be there for your kids and they will grow. You will too. Thanks for the good times, SMBA.

Parent comment

As a parent that is just coming into this organization because my daughter is interested and would like to start something new, wow.
The reason I say this, is because after reading these letters I don't know what to think. I personally have never coached a sports team but have been and are a leader of other organized groups and understand that fairness needs to be at every level. I refuse to lead a group where my kids are mainly because I think they would learn more from another adult that does not live in the same house. Children respond better to other kids parents and I expect that Coach or Leader to be able to teach every child in their group accordingly. I would do so for their children and so on. The fact that some coaches are feeling a bit stressed by parents comments is not necessary, because you need to expect that when you came into that position. Same goes for the parents, you have to expect some hardships for your children and just teach them it is part of life, but also do deal with a situation if it has become out of hand directly with the coach first. 
I hope my comments have not offended anyone, just a neutral bystander to this organization so far. I am a very involved parent in my communities and volunteer in various programs that my kids have been involved in or are in at a different level that I may teach. This will be an interesting season for my daughter and I, but I hope we both learn something in the end from the experience alone.
Thank you.  

March 13, 2003

Parent comment

First of all I would like to say that it sounds like the other parents comments referred to our team as well. 

As a parent I would hope there are still good coaches out there, ones that are good role models for all athletics, teaching good sportsmanship, are adult enough to put friendships, feelings aside in order to encourage/coach all of the athletics in their charge.

To the contrary, as shared here, they are being taught some of the worst lessons in life from adults that should be good role models but are showing in their actions that hard work, dedication, proven stronger ability than others, will be ignored in order to highlight others that happen to be friends children, or their own.

These particular coaches can give reasons for their actions as it is their choice to decide who plays or doesn't, who they feel is a better player, but by showcasing some at the expense of others, are they really doing the job they have been entrusted to do...coach? When you have a majority of the team parents afraid to step forward to voice their opinions for fear their athletic will be black listed by the coaching staff due to their observations/voicing their concerns of unfairness (and has proven to be the case) I not only am disappointed in the coaching, but parents, the school administration as well.

Has it gotten to the point of we are teaching it is a dog eat dog world. That hard work and dedication, trying to excel, good sportsmanship is not what gets you ahead in life.

I sincerely hope that the scares/lessons some of these coaches are teaching our youth are not carried over into their adult lives. Granted life is not always fair, but I would not expect that lesson to be learned from someone who has been entrusted to be a good role model for our youth.

March 10, 2003

Coach comment

Fellow Coaches
I've been reading a few of the comments and opinions regarding some of the issues that seem to pop up year after year; here's my contribution.

Unlike some of the veteran coaches who have been active for well over twenty years, I only started in 1993 ­ and "only because" I convinced my 11year old daughter to register for the first time.

Although I don't have any statistics, I believe it would be safe to assume that most coaches have had one or more of their own kids on a team at one point or another ­ and I think that's fine. Quite often, the parent pool is the only place to find committed coaches. And it may not be the case with everyone, but I found "I" had a bit more enthusiasm to meet the required time obligations, when one of my own kids were on the team. Let's be honest ­ coaching takes up a significant chunk of hours, so I appreciate any coach's involvement; i.e. - today, if my youngest daughter's soccer coach had "six" of his own kids on the team, I know one or more of his kids may be a better player than my own ­ and possibly be out there a bit more as a result - but that's okay. More often than not, it's us parents who spark the "playing time" topic within our kids. I'm sure we're all at fault. Trusting and understanding the coach's judgement is hard at times - unless it is blatantly favoured where some kids hardly ever hit the field (court / ice) ­ in those cases, someone may need to step forward.

Personally, I think I play my kids a bit less than I should, simply due to the perception I know many parents have about that issue ­ then I'm playing favorites in the opposite direction. Over the years, I've been fortunate to have some pretty good players to learn with (as that is exactly what coaching is all about ­ we "all" get something from the experience ­ players, coaches and parents alike) ­ and I'm fairly certain some of them got more time than my own kid.

A couple of my young players had been dominant over the years ­ and are now leading the high school stats today ­ and although a coach certainly likes to see those special players excel and move on, managing fair playing time for all can be a challenge. I remember in a tight Bantam playoff game a few years ago, my own child "asked" me to get pulled out so a better player could go back in ­ just so the team had a better chance of winning. I was proud of his unselfishness ­ and equally proud of the other player who said no thanks coach ­ reminding me that wasn't how we started ­ and is not how we should end. Like I said ­ we all learn together.

I must say however, that once in the last ten years, I do recall a parent drilling me about their kid's playing time vs. "the stars" - but never once do I recall a player whining about it. They knew that sometimes a tougher game needed an extra shift of gunners ­ and in other easier games, those gunners played a bit less. Right or wrong - that's how we worked it out ­ and the kids were happiest. Playing time was fair at the end of the day, but possibly lop-sided in a specific game.

Today, ten years after my coaching debut, in spite of my faults, that 11 year old daughter plays with the Huskies ­ thank goodness her other coaches corrected my errors. Now I've gone back to coaching spuds ­ and no I don't have more energy or time than I had ten years ago ­ but I do have another daughter in her first year of learning. Enthusiasm comes in various ways. Mine picks up when I have a vested interest in the required three or four sessions a week ­ personally, I "hope" her future coaches might have a child of their own of the team; although not often, I've been to many a game where parents race in to pick up their kid "after" the game ­ if coach has a kid on the team, I know I can count on that person to be there ­ regardless of weather or war ­ and that my youngster will be in pretty good hands.

Thanks to all the coaches who have helped teach my kids over the years. I know what it takes and I know that I won't agree with every decision you make. But I still appreciate your effort and time.

March 10, 2003

Coach comment to parent

My daughter is in grade 11 and I have coached her since she was in grade 3. I also spent several years coaching my son's teams, as well as a number of other teams. I have greatly enjoyed my time with every player that I have coached and hope that the young people I have been involved with have benefited and learned as much from me, as I have from them.

As far as playing time goes, at the beginning of each season, I explain to my players and their parents that the players that come to practice on a regular basis, work hard and have a positive attitude will all receive as equal playing time as I can manage for every game.

I know that most coaches in our league do the same thing, although some coaches choose to shorten their bench during the play-offs. I have chosen not to do this, but if the kids and parents have been told this at the beginning of the season, I can understand the coaches` choice.

I don't think the way to fix playing time is to not allow parents to coach their own children, but I do think the league should have a minimum (10 minute) and maximum (30 minute) playing time rule in all divisions.

The rule wouldn't have to be strictly enforced for every game, but if parents are dissatisfied they could file a complaint with the league. The offending coach could be notified of the complaint and the gym supervisors could monitor that teams playing time for a set number (maybe 3) games to determine if further action is necessary. This would also give the coach the opportunity to respond to the complaint (perhaps a player never comes to practice).

If the league had told me that I could not coach my own children, I greatly doubt that I would have ever coached. This year I coached several teams, but would have not done so if I couldn't have coached my own daughter. I don't think there would ever be enough coaches in our league, 180 teams plus this year, if we didn't have parents involved.

On the other hand, all coaches should remember that we are here for the kids and the kids just want to play. I feel everyone in our league should always remember that playing hard, playing smart and having fun should be more important than winning games that in a couple of years from now will be long forgotten.

March 7, 2003

Parent comment to coach

The sad truth is that most of the comments made in "Parent comment to coach" are true. My daughter spent a lot of time on the bench this year and I had to watch as the coach's daughter played most of every game.  The team also hase to listen to the coach's daughter every time there is a discussion as she takes over coaching the team.

Maybe the easiest solution to this problem would be to have anyone who is volunteering to coach, put with a team that does not have their child on it. There would be no favoritism if all the players were "equal". 

All I know is that my daughter went from a player with drive and determination to one who hated going to practice and ended up crying at most of the games. It did her no good to ask to be put in to play because she was basically ignored. It does nothing for a player's self-confidence and self-esteem if they think that they are not "good" enough to play community league basketball which has a mandate that all kids can play.

The good thing that came out of this forum is that I can now tell my daughter that she isn't the only one that this is happening to. It doesn't hurt any less but you don't feel so alone.

March 5, 2003

Parent comment to coach

In regard to specifics asked by one coach, where do I begin....

At the High School level, I sincerely believe that parents should not be allowed to coach their child's team. As we all know from business, very few people are able to draw a line when it comes to being neutral, ignoring friendships, family or policitcal gains when making decisions.

This last season I have watched certain players given priority treatment, while others of greater talent sit on the bench. These other players, when given a few minutes of play, have been told not to shoot and being in such a short period of time, can't even get into the rhythem of the game before they are pulled (2 min. or less) and although do their part (no fouls, rebounding etc.) feel they were just given their token play time for appearances sake.

Competition between players is good for the most part, makes each individual strive to play better, but when you see players upset due to errors being made on the floor and the coaching staff ignoring those errors made by certain individuals, but not others, the respect of the players towards coaching begins to drain. These same selected players, can talk back to coaching (get in their face), not follow the rules set forth (not at practices but yet still start), all done in open view of other team members and yet be given special treatment. What, I ask, is this telling the youth of today....

Along with special treatment, anything written about the team, has no mention of others on the team that contributed to the game. Special players are advertised time and time again, even if others contributed more. Now I realize these parent coaches want their child to possibly get scholarships, but realistically none will gain a free ride anywhere. Some sitting on the bench, have better grades, have more of a chance of getting a partial due to this fact, and yet they have not been given the chance to be seen, and if on the floor are told not to shoot, stay behind the scenes and let the "star" players make all the points....feeding the ball to a select few is also evident and plays are set up for just that point.

As far as coaches comments of what each player tells their parents possibly being shaded by an individuals view, is not so. When a parent goes to every game, watches opportunities given to a select few and not others who are far better having to sit time and time again, (and worked their hearts out at practices, followed all the rules) this is not just a players opinion.

Outsiders coming to games, asking why certain players are still in after making numerous errors, why certain players are sitting when they are evidently very good at what they do and better than the floor, makes ones opinion verified (not that it needed to be).

I guess the point I am trying to make is, coaching is not what it used to be. Equal opportunity, teaching good sportsmanship, good ethics, feeling part of a team, and hard work and dedication rewarded.

This season, our players have learned it's not how you play the game, it's who you know. What a tough lesson to learn so young. I think the frosting on the cake is when a player voices their concerns to the coaching staff regarding the team play as a whole (not themselves) in an adult manner, and that same coaching staff doesn't even have the good manners to respond to their concerns but yet again ignores the issues set forth.

March 2, 2003

Coach comment to parent

It sounds like this parent has some issues with his or her particular coach. I hope they have addressed these issues in a manner that is not confrontational. I hope this parent has not "painted" all coaches with the same brush. Some specifics would be interesting and would make for some interesting discussion.

February 24, 2003

Coach comment to parent

Thanks for the letter. I agree with everything in it. I hope this parent has chosen to impart the positives he/she stands for by volunteering as a coach. This way, there'll be one more positive coach in the mix.

February 22, 2003

Coach comment to parent

I felt I must reply to this letter from a parent. I am both a coach and a parent of two boys who play in two different leagues. For the most part I do agree with the letter, but I have to encourage the parent who has never coached to remember that we all see things as we are, not as the situation is - our perspective is not always the right one. This is in regards to the paragraph which is expressing the players' frustrations. Yes, there is some truth in what is being expressed and there is also a lot of emotion and misinterpretation as to what is going on around them. I say this through experience with my own sons, who often come to me in frustration and "vent". The advantage that I have is that I know their coaches, I am also a coach, and both of these facts put an entirely new perspective on what they are saying. They are children, and their perspective is a child's perspective. When you are a child, much in life that doesn't seem to go your way is interpreted as "unfair".

From a coaches perspective, I agree it would be wonderful if I could afford the money and time to take more coaching clinics. But everyone should remember that most coaches are parents like you and me. I have my own business (approx. 60 hrs/week), 2 basketball games on Saturdays, 2 practices a week, 3 children to drive to music per week, 1 daughter in volleyball (practices and games) and the list goes on and on. So I think that "most" coaches are doing the best they can. Yes, there may be a few that are bad apples and definitely none are perfect, but most of them are giving their very best efforts to help our children grow, develop and have fun.

From a fathers perspective I tell my children:

1. They need to submit to the coach and his direction. (Remember,  they will be submitted to someone at all times in their life, whether it be a teacher, a coach, a professor, or an employer! We don't always get to do things in situations where we "like" everyone, or where everyone "likes" us. Very few people in life have learned the value of following directions whether they like it or not.
2. No matter what goes on around them, my concern is that they respond properly and do what is right. I want to raise victors not victims.
3. Practice and play with all your heart. Your goal is to be the best you can be. Don't let your environment determine your effort.

In closing I want to point out that ultimately we as parents are the first and last point of contact for our children, how are we responding to them when they come to us. Do we "take a side" or do we take the oppurtunity to teach a lessons that will strenthen them in their lives. When they hit their 20's and 30's I doubt if they will remember "that game". What they will remember is that they where "allways the victim", "allways treated bad", "allways lied to" OR   that Mom and Dad helped them to realize that everyday in life is an opportunity to learn to do what is right and live out what we have learned.

As parents we need to:

Give the coach the benefit of the doubt. OR
Go talk directly to the coach (at the right time, place and w/ the right attitude)
Be at every game to encourage them on. After every basket or good play I can guarantee your childs first glance will be into the stands to see if mom and dad saw it.
Take the initiative and take on the a position as a Coach or Assistant Coach.
Remember we are responsable for our kids and how they turn out not the Coach or the Teacher

Coach comment to parent

I can only comment from the experiences of our team and the age group and division we play in.
The coaching with regards to respect and equal play has been commendable. I see fellow stronger players supporting the weaker or less experienced players. I see coaches, in the true spirit and philosophy of the league, teaching the game to increase each individual skill. I see players on the court giving it there all, and if they loose, they still seem to have a smile on their faces. Tells me they are enjoying the game win or loose and it reflects back on the coaches.

I may have issues with some coaches on what they teach, but not with how they treat their players.

I also understand that at higher division levels and age groups, the competitive factor has a greater influence on coaches and their view of fair play. Every sport is competitive, and part of the coach's mandate is to organize a team strategy that would produce the best chances of success. Let's not forget that players also place a great deal of emphasis on winning. If the sport is organized in a tier system, then the top tier teams will always give more time to line combinations that are the strongest. The parents expect it.

A coach may not always be as objective as they should in their decision making process. As with parents, their views may be jaded and I'm sure in some cases they both are. Human beings.

We hear about Hockey parents. I'm witness to the fact that it is not indigenous to Hockey. Basketball has its share.

Is it abuse or a coach's approach to motivation? Depending on the presentation and circumstances, they can be misunderstood and misinterpreted.

If it's abuse, it's unacceptable, and a formal complaint should be lodged with the SMBA. I do know they take matters of this nature seriously. That is our responsibility as parents. The choice is also ours to request a move of our kid to another team.

I don't know if the request was made.
I don't know if the parent made the concerns know to the coach.
I don't know the coach's side.
I don't know the specifics of the "abuse" statement.
I don't know if there are any other parents on the team that has the same concerns.
I don't know what various kids mean. Did you talk to the various kids' parents?
I really don't know why after so many years of bad experiences one would keep their kid in the sport.
I do know that the term "most coaches need to be taught lessons in respect" has not been my experience.

February 21, 2003

Parent response

totally agree with you regarding parent involvement. The problem however at the high school level are two fold. I do not believe that parents should be allowed to coach their players team due to some adults not being able to draw a line or be objective in dealing with equal opportunity between their child nor that of their friends. Secondly when parents are forbidden from practice/locked door policy and when parents speak up for the right of all players/not their own specifically, or a constructive suggestion, their child is punished for their parent speaking out.....I have witnessed this for two years now and feel the right messages regarding fair sportsmanship, team values, respecting oneself as well as others on the team are not being presented.

Our teams parent involvement when possible is strong, financial backing, ever present at games, helping whenever needed, but all have been put in a situation of running scared, afraid to come forward or speak out regarding the coaching staff for fear their plaeyr will be further mistreated and ignored. I find the whole situation and the message being sent to most of these players one of the hardest lessons in life - which is sometimes regardless of how devoted, hard working, showing respect when others do not, following all the rules of the game - can be broken if you are in a select group that don't even play as well as others that are left not playing and wondering why until the realization of not all adults are good role models and sometimes it's who you know, who you travel with is what gets you to the top.

February 21, 2003

Coach comment to parent

My only comment - where are all the parents when its time to sign up to coach? Every parent should take the opportunity to coach and gain a healthy respect for what volunteer coaches go through. I fully agree that coaches need to be great leaders and professional in their duties and their very real responsibilities. However, parents need to be there too. Rarely, if ever, are parents at practices to ask questions, ask about your coaching philosophy or methods or offer suggestions. Too bad so often all the weight for the child's sports career seems to land on the volunteer coaches shoulders. I really think the kids sports career should be a shared partnership. Parents need to take some ownership for the kid showing up to practice or snowboarding or playing hockey instead of being at games and practices. What message does this send to the child about participating on a team or taking a coach seriously?

February 21, 2003

Parent comment

Being a parent watching from the stands can be an enjoyable experience or a heart breaking one. Either way, you have to be there to support your child.

For several years I have watched numerous coaches throughout the league and have come to the conclusion that most need to be taught the basics of their specific game and to include a lesson of respect for the young individuals we place in their care.
A definite sign of a good coaching staff is to first not look at their record, but watch their team as a whole. Do they like each other, do they play as a team, encourage each other even when playing the same positions and does the coaching staff equally support and encourage each individual.

Several young adults, when asked what has their sport taught them this year, I received the following response: "regardless of how hard you practice, follow all the rules, give respect to the coaching staff, it means nothing". "you can outplay the favorites during practice and be told you are doing your part to make the team better"; "your made promises by adults that time after time they don't intend to keep and only tell you them to keep you quiet"; "if you are in a select group you can break any rule, talk back to coaching staff and still be able to play over others who follow every rule"; "you can be disrespected by coaches via verbal abuse"; players with lessor skills will continue to be utilized and developed while others who are far better will sit on the sidelines and wonder what they did wrong and never given an explanation".

What are these coaches teaching our youth? and how many great players are out there that gave up their dreams due to bad coaching?

Coaches today need to take a look in the mirror, ask themselves do they treat their players with respect, do they give each player an equal chance, are their players happy and get along well as a team. 

Coaches I think have forgotten they are teachers of life - they are in control of numerous lives that can either come out of the experience a better person, or one that has to learn a hard lesson of life that not all adults follow the same rules they set forth for others or are a good role model.

A parent

January 23, 2003

Reply to the Huskies cancelling the half time games:

While I understand the problem Ross has with some parents, lets look at who the real big losers are here. It is the children. Last year I booked our team (mini girls) to three Husky half-time games. The girls learned a tremendous amount just watching the Huskies play. As a coach, sometimes you can teach and say all you want, but for the girls to actually see it happening, is very important. The girls really enjoyed playing at half-time. It's not often that they get to play on a court of that stature and in front of so many fans (including their own parents).
This year our team booked to play at half time in one of the January games. We found out quite late that we were canceled. The disappointment in the girls was very obvious. Because we had already booked the time to go, most of our team went anyways. WE ALL PAID!
There may have been some confusion as to parents paying at the first game (last year) but, I know for a fact that my parents did pay to get in, only the coaches and the players were allowed in for free. There was no problem anytime after that.
Surely to goodness, there must be a better way of handling non-paying parents than just cancelling playing at half-time. Coaches could make sure to inform their parents that they are expected to pay. Maybe the SMBA could send out a letter in the coaches packages (at the beginning of the year) dealing with this issue. Maybe the coaches could arrange with the Huskies to presell game tickets to the parents that wish to attend. At any rate, there are better solutions than just cancelling the children!! We are suppose to be a children-centric society, lets act like one.
A final note...to those parents who don't pay...not only are you ruining it for everyone, but also for your own child. Please pay!
Eric Tang
Lawson Heights Flames (Bantam Girls)

December 30, 2001

• In response to the comment made about fair playing time in basketball,we take offense to the last line about hockey being a "win at all costs" sport. We are parents with children who play both sports ( basketball and hockey). If you have comments about basketball coaches not playing fairly, stick to commenting about one sport at a time. It doesn't do any good slamming one sport over another....we enjoy both sports and feel the need to stick up for hockey when it is being unjustly criticized.

November 29, 2001

• When we think about the coaches (heroes) in our life, we often think of the coach that "believed in us" (even when perhaps we didn't) and as a coach we should strive to be that "hero" to our players. As a parent and coach, I thank the many, many SMBA "heroes" who, at every opportunity, nurtures a player's self-esteem, builds their confidence, models teamwork and shows what "winning" really means. You are in a league of your own in youth sports! If we as parents or coaches, need to be reminded of those things, just watch a spuds game - shining examples of confidence, self-esteem,teamwork, "winning" and the love of basketball!!!

November 26, 2001

• Thank you for the very pointed comments by one of the coaches. To address this "hot" topic is very important because every kid deserves a chance to play.

• I wish to add my support to the comments of November 25.
  
  First, everyone should know that minor basketball made a minor change in the wording of their rules this year. The words "equitable playing time" were replaced with "fair playing time". This change has opened up various interpretations of what "playing time" should be. As such, it has invited the abuse of the equitable division of playing time alotted to players of various abilities. In my opinion, this rule was changed so that inequitable playing time could be employed as a tactic by coaches. What is the motivation for this...to win, and sometimes at all costs. Let me state that every coach and every player likes to win, no getting around that. But we as coaches are supposed to know better, we are charged with the development of all our players; it is up to us to put the child before the win.
  
  Recently, I had an opportunity to take the level 1 coaches course for basketball (A course that I highly recommend to all coaches.). During that course, in a general discussion, we spent an hour or more discussing this exact subject. The following comments were made...
  
  "Some children don't wish to play during a pressure situation because if they go out there we would lose...they ask to sit out..."
  
  My comment to that is this, if you have developed this type of atitude in your some of your players (weaker or otherwise)... then you have developed a confidence problem in that child.  Worse yet, the child may already have a confidence problem, then you have just added to it. In the end, their self-esteem is being eroded. I've coached in three sports for over fifteen years...when a child comes up to you and says that they don't wish to play for fear of losing...it is time to send them out to do their best...and show them that they are more important to you than winning. Believe me when I say that their self-confidence and self-esteem goes way up. Sure you may lose the game, but you win a much more important war. Lesson here...we should be more worried about building young women and men, than the statistic in the win and lost column.
  
  "We play every one equally during league play, but when it comes to tournaments or provincials, I go with my strongest line or players..."
  
  All my comments from above apply also to the above statement with one added note. It is even more important to play all your players equitable during critical times... Believe me, your star players will always be noticed, they will always advance, with or without your help. They have the "gift". It is your marginal players that need most of your help and support. One of those marginal players will surprise you one of these days...if you play them equitably. If they never get a chance...
  
  Here's an example:  We had this kid on one of my wee pee fastball teams...never played ball before. All year long he had troubles with fly balls, never caught one.  We kept playing him anyways (equitably of course)...during our last tournament of the year, we were in the Gold medal final, the score was 11-10 for us with two out, we were in the bottom of the seventh inning...the other teams' top batter came up and hit a ball deep out in centrefield where this kid was playing. He ran, and he ran, and he caught the ball, his first, preserving the win and and giving us the gold medal. He came in from centrefield crying, his parents were crying, we were all crying, the whole team. He never missed a fly ball after that. You don't get stories like that if don't play all your kids equally.
  
  "The kids like to win, they don't like to lose..."
  
  To me, this is mostly a reflection of the coach's atitude or maybe their parents. Whatever it is, the children should be made aware that they are playing for their own enjoyment and not ours or their parents. Children, should be taught to win and lose gracefully. If you ask them why they are playing most of them would list "being with friends" higher than "winning". Its not a lot of fun when your friend is playing and you are sitting on the bench...There is a direct correlation between kids quitting sports and having to sit on the bench. Equitable playing time solves this problem.
  
  "Some kids show up to practise more than others, they work harder than others. Is it fair to play the ones that don't show up or work as hard equally?"
  
  Yes! Most kids don't miss practice because of their own volition. Usually, they are experiencing some sort of problem at home or school or otherwise. Investigate, offer rides. Try your hardest to get them there. Maybe make practices more interesting..Also beware that not all kids respond to you in the same manner. Try and find out why they are missing. Usually, there are good reasons behind it.
  
  As you may have gathered I believe in equitable playing time, in all cases and in all situations. I usually have a parents meeting early in the year and explain that this is how its going to be. In almost every case, the parents have been very supportive. The kids love it!
  
  Some final thoughts...if you win all or most of your games and a provincial title or two with only your "good" players and carry a bench, then you have achieved something. But if you win all or most of your games and a provinical title or two using all your players equitably and carry no bench, then you have achieve something special and exceptional.  All of them feel that they have had a hand in the victory; isn't that what team play is all about? Every execeptional player that I ever had, took care of themselves, they were always recognized. Its not they don't need your help, they do, but they demand less of you and your time. Please keep the interest of your marginal players close to your heart. They need you the most!
  
• Kudos to the person who wrote the comments on equal playing time. I hope more coaches wake up to this fact.
  

November 25, 2001